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		<title>By: Larry Love</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1805</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 19:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Lorin;; One thing I really miss is the listing of the songs sung by the Qts. and chorus at the International Conventions when you provide the pictures and members names of the various groups in your annual convention issue. I always found it interesting to know what songs were popular and if there were many duplications. Hope you can incorporate them in your convention issue this year. Keep up the good work I read each Harmonizer from cover to cover and keep all the convention issues.regards Larry Love</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Lorin;; One thing I really miss is the listing of the songs sung by the Qts. and chorus at the International Conventions when you provide the pictures and members names of the various groups in your annual convention issue. I always found it interesting to know what songs were popular and if there were many duplications. Hope you can incorporate them in your convention issue this year. Keep up the good work I read each Harmonizer from cover to cover and keep all the convention issues.regards Larry Love</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1744</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 22:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not aware of the Society ever having a requirement that chapter members actually be active singers. I have a feeling that it was your local chapter leadership making that decision, not the Society (and if the Society had known about it, the locals would have been in deep doo-doo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not aware of the Society ever having a requirement that chapter members actually be active singers. I have a feeling that it was your local chapter leadership making that decision, not the Society (and if the Society had known about it, the locals would have been in deep doo-doo).</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Neumann</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1740</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Neumann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 15:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lost about 12 years because of &quot;Protenion&quot; in the mid eighty&#039;s. My wife had recently died from cancer. I paid my dues BUT instead of sending them to headquarters they returned the check with a note saying the chapter had voted me out. I was one of several. Two were Bronze quartet metalists. The object (from Society) was to have only singing members on the roll. It left a real bad taste in my mouth and I didn&#039;t come back till 1999 with a different chapter. I sing with the Chorus of the Chesapeake Dundalk Chapter now and I&#039;m glad I&#039;m back. Thanks to Snake Fogle for the encouragement. Tho I still resent losing all those years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost about 12 years because of &#8220;Protenion&#8221; in the mid eighty&#8217;s. My wife had recently died from cancer. I paid my dues BUT instead of sending them to headquarters they returned the check with a note saying the chapter had voted me out. I was one of several. Two were Bronze quartet metalists. The object (from Society) was to have only singing members on the roll. It left a real bad taste in my mouth and I didn&#8217;t come back till 1999 with a different chapter. I sing with the Chorus of the Chesapeake Dundalk Chapter now and I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m back. Thanks to Snake Fogle for the encouragement. Tho I still resent losing all those years.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Isherwood</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1712</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Isherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 02:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a question that I ask all the time to the &quot;old timers&quot;....Is the Barbershop experience you are having today, the same as the one you had when you joined? And the answer is always - no. I remind them that it is &quot;their&quot; responsibility to pass on the traditions that made the hobby so much fun way back when. New members should be getting the same &quot;fun&quot; experience. Interchapter meetings, interchapter shows, interchapter functions etc. When I plan an event, I try to include as many people as possible. This June my chapter will be sponsoring the 6th Annual Baseball, Barbershop BBQ at the Pawtucket Red Sox baseball game. We invite all barbershoppers, former barbershoppers, potential barbershoppers, family and friends in the Northeast to attend. We have a great BBQ with lots of singing and then the men sing the national anthem in an interchapter chorus. For many it is the only time they will get to sing in a 70 man chorus in front of 8000 people. We need to create more of these singing opportunities for every Barbershopper. This July I am also planning a Barbershop Harmony Jamboree in one of our State parks and we have invited all BHS, SAI and HI Chapters in the area to participate. The more the merrier, as long as it includes singing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a question that I ask all the time to the &#8220;old timers&#8221;&#8230;.Is the Barbershop experience you are having today, the same as the one you had when you joined? And the answer is always &#8211; no. I remind them that it is &#8220;their&#8221; responsibility to pass on the traditions that made the hobby so much fun way back when. New members should be getting the same &#8220;fun&#8221; experience. Interchapter meetings, interchapter shows, interchapter functions etc. When I plan an event, I try to include as many people as possible. This June my chapter will be sponsoring the 6th Annual Baseball, Barbershop BBQ at the Pawtucket Red Sox baseball game. We invite all barbershoppers, former barbershoppers, potential barbershoppers, family and friends in the Northeast to attend. We have a great BBQ with lots of singing and then the men sing the national anthem in an interchapter chorus. For many it is the only time they will get to sing in a 70 man chorus in front of 8000 people. We need to create more of these singing opportunities for every Barbershopper. This July I am also planning a Barbershop Harmony Jamboree in one of our State parks and we have invited all BHS, SAI and HI Chapters in the area to participate. The more the merrier, as long as it includes singing.</p>
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		<title>By: George O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1489</link>
		<dc:creator>George O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should consider bringing back the Saturday afternoon show at the Int&#039;l 
convention called the Jamboree.  This was for comedy and entertainment.</description>
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convention called the Jamboree.  This was for comedy and entertainment.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Goldie</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1445</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Goldie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making the old logos.  Give us a vote on the logo, and have it decided by which sells the best on the Harmony Marketplace t-shirts that year.  Not only will you make a mint, but you&#039;ll have helped slay the beast that you guys don&#039;t listen to the members :P  (though this thread is a good start)

Printing arrangements and putting them in the Harmonizer to tear out and sing.  If you have to release some of the stuff that you own copyright on but currently don&#039;t print -- like the out of print songs from the catalog that are of PUBLIC DOMAIN tunes -- then that&#039;s a start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making the old logos.  Give us a vote on the logo, and have it decided by which sells the best on the Harmony Marketplace t-shirts that year.  Not only will you make a mint, but you&#8217;ll have helped slay the beast that you guys don&#8217;t listen to the members <img src='http://www.barbershophq.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   (though this thread is a good start)</p>
<p>Printing arrangements and putting them in the Harmonizer to tear out and sing.  If you have to release some of the stuff that you own copyright on but currently don&#8217;t print &#8212; like the out of print songs from the catalog that are of PUBLIC DOMAIN tunes &#8212; then that&#8217;s a start.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe Becker</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1371</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe Becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a younger member (16 years old) I really have no say in this, but I do believe that we should bring back a few things that I have heard of.  I long for the day that I have heard of before, a time when the Society was like one big chorus.  Nowadays, nothing goes on between the chapters.  Zero.  Zip.  Nada.  (Alright, I&#039;ll count in the comments of &quot;Those are enemies in that chapter&quot;).  We need more chapter get-together&#039;s for all of us.  I have been a member for going on 6 years, and I have only heard of two.  When I attended those, I had the time of my life, people getting together and talking as if you&#039;ve known them for years, and singing songs and tags with people you do not know.  Those were fantastic days of my life.  Also, does anyone still do the Barberpole Cat Program anymore?  I do not mean just knowing the songs, but doing the assignments on the last page of the book, getting the certificate for completing all of the songs with a quartet, and feeling on top of the world when you learned all four parts to the songs.  Those days we need to bring back, the chapter I am in does not do those things and no nearby chapter does either.  Also, it needs to be a requirement that every chapter end their performances with the song &quot;Keep the Whole World Singing,&quot; so that any barbershopper in the audience can maybe sing along with them, making it 100% more fun.  Also, woodshedding definitely needs to be brought back.  The closest thing I found to a woodshedder in my chapter in a pencil sharpener.  Woodshedding is an art that needs to be promoted and taught to all ages of people.  Finally, make the barbershop contest, a contest again, not a Broadway performance.  (As you can see, I may be young, but I&#039;m one of those people who will take the S.P.E.B.S.Q.S.A. logo over the BHS logo any day.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a younger member (16 years old) I really have no say in this, but I do believe that we should bring back a few things that I have heard of.  I long for the day that I have heard of before, a time when the Society was like one big chorus.  Nowadays, nothing goes on between the chapters.  Zero.  Zip.  Nada.  (Alright, I&#8217;ll count in the comments of &#8220;Those are enemies in that chapter&#8221;).  We need more chapter get-together&#8217;s for all of us.  I have been a member for going on 6 years, and I have only heard of two.  When I attended those, I had the time of my life, people getting together and talking as if you&#8217;ve known them for years, and singing songs and tags with people you do not know.  Those were fantastic days of my life.  Also, does anyone still do the Barberpole Cat Program anymore?  I do not mean just knowing the songs, but doing the assignments on the last page of the book, getting the certificate for completing all of the songs with a quartet, and feeling on top of the world when you learned all four parts to the songs.  Those days we need to bring back, the chapter I am in does not do those things and no nearby chapter does either.  Also, it needs to be a requirement that every chapter end their performances with the song &#8220;Keep the Whole World Singing,&#8221; so that any barbershopper in the audience can maybe sing along with them, making it 100% more fun.  Also, woodshedding definitely needs to be brought back.  The closest thing I found to a woodshedder in my chapter in a pencil sharpener.  Woodshedding is an art that needs to be promoted and taught to all ages of people.  Finally, make the barbershop contest, a contest again, not a Broadway performance.  (As you can see, I may be young, but I&#8217;m one of those people who will take the S.P.E.B.S.Q.S.A. logo over the BHS logo any day.)</p>
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		<title>By: Don Dobson</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Dobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where have all the woodshedders gone? I fear we have lost the &quot;art&quot; of self-expressiion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where have all the woodshedders gone? I fear we have lost the &#8220;art&#8221; of self-expressiion.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are seriously missing out on some great musical experiences, then. And not just from the Int&#039;l contest stage, but the lobby singing the rest of the week as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are seriously missing out on some great musical experiences, then. And not just from the Int&#8217;l contest stage, but the lobby singing the rest of the week as well.</p>
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		<title>By: barney griffin</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1284</link>
		<dc:creator>barney griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I miss is old time chapter visitations. While singing the Chorus Of The Dunes(Gary, Ind.)we visited a chapter in Chicago area. The afterglow was in a pizza parlor and a fairly new quartet sang a couple of songs and afterward a nice elderly lady who was evidently the owner said to &quot;That is &quot;Grandma&#039;s Boys&quot; and I&#039;m Grandma!&quot; Another fond memory  is all of the golf outings held by different chapters. My first meeting was followed up by an afterglow and when a quartet sang, everybody sat quietly and paid close attention to the performers. I got into a quartet that nightand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I miss is old time chapter visitations. While singing the Chorus Of The Dunes(Gary, Ind.)we visited a chapter in Chicago area. The afterglow was in a pizza parlor and a fairly new quartet sang a couple of songs and afterward a nice elderly lady who was evidently the owner said to &#8220;That is &#8220;Grandma&#8217;s Boys&#8221; and I&#8217;m Grandma!&#8221; Another fond memory  is all of the golf outings held by different chapters. My first meeting was followed up by an afterglow and when a quartet sang, everybody sat quietly and paid close attention to the performers. I got into a quartet that nightand</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Hanna</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1282</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allan=Thank you for that. I agree and in my recruiting efforts I advise, if needed, &quot;There&#039;s safety in numbers&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allan=Thank you for that. I agree and in my recruiting efforts I advise, if needed, &#8220;There&#8217;s safety in numbers&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1281</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without choruses, the Society&#039;s membership would be less than one third of what it is now.

Most people alive today did not grow up singing. If the only option available to them was to walk in the chapter&#039;s door and sing in a quartet, they would never even walk in. They have neither the skill nor comfort level to sing in a quartet coming in off the street.

The chorus is where a guy can spend the time necessary to get both the skills and the comfort level necessary to hold his part in a quartet. When he&#039;s ready for a quartet, he&#039;ll form one.

Choruses are not the problem.

And, btw, there is no rule that says you can&#039;t just stand there and sing (with emotion, obviously). Even at the International level, most choruses do that on their ballads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without choruses, the Society&#8217;s membership would be less than one third of what it is now.</p>
<p>Most people alive today did not grow up singing. If the only option available to them was to walk in the chapter&#8217;s door and sing in a quartet, they would never even walk in. They have neither the skill nor comfort level to sing in a quartet coming in off the street.</p>
<p>The chorus is where a guy can spend the time necessary to get both the skills and the comfort level necessary to hold his part in a quartet. When he&#8217;s ready for a quartet, he&#8217;ll form one.</p>
<p>Choruses are not the problem.</p>
<p>And, btw, there is no rule that says you can&#8217;t just stand there and sing (with emotion, obviously). Even at the International level, most choruses do that on their ballads.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Martyn</title>
		<link>http://www.barbershophq.com/?p=1269#comment-1280</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chorus contests.  

The evolution of chorus competitions has taken the emphasis away from quarteting and put it onto elaborate productions in order to draw big crowds to conventions.  As a result, the society has lost sight of its roots on the hotel roof.  It is what it is though, so I don&#039;t recommend ending them now.  In addition to those grand events, we should do everything we can to encourage smaller events where Joe can go to learn a thing or two and ring some chords without having to strut and dance for the priviledge.

You asked...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chorus contests.  </p>
<p>The evolution of chorus competitions has taken the emphasis away from quarteting and put it onto elaborate productions in order to draw big crowds to conventions.  As a result, the society has lost sight of its roots on the hotel roof.  It is what it is though, so I don&#8217;t recommend ending them now.  In addition to those grand events, we should do everything we can to encourage smaller events where Joe can go to learn a thing or two and ring some chords without having to strut and dance for the priviledge.</p>
<p>You asked&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Krancher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Krancher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our chapter solved the &quot;early to bed&quot; problem a few years ago by starting our rehearsals earlier and making them shorter thus allowing time for the fun afterglows.  We encourage those that attend to suggest their songs to sing so that everyone sings &quot;their song.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our chapter solved the &#8220;early to bed&#8221; problem a few years ago by starting our rehearsals earlier and making them shorter thus allowing time for the fun afterglows.  We encourage those that attend to suggest their songs to sing so that everyone sings &#8220;their song.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things we lament in our chapter is the passing of spontaneous singing before chapter meeting and after. The problem is that we are all getting older and leave as soon as we can after meeting to get home to bed. Twenty years ago we would have gone out for a hour of tag singing and beer after chapter meetings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things we lament in our chapter is the passing of spontaneous singing before chapter meeting and after. The problem is that we are all getting older and leave as soon as we can after meeting to get home to bed. Twenty years ago we would have gone out for a hour of tag singing and beer after chapter meetings.</p>
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